Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 86
Climb the tricky wall (only 5b for the tall and talented) to the break, then step right and head up the slab to a tricky landing.
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5b boulder problem with a VDiff top. If you're good enough to do the start, do yourself a favour and solo it!
I don't think the top is VDiff. The move over the bulge felt harder than that to me.
I think that it is harder than 5b or a very hard 5b at the least - especially if you have a short reach!!! I think the move over the bulge is also harder than VDiff.
tried bouldering the start, agreed seems at least 5b, probably 5c....
If it feels harder than 5b you must be doing it wrong - honest.
Only 5b if you can get your left foot in the big pocket. Otherwise solid 5c I reckon.
Opening moves felt more like 5c to me. A hard 5b at least - though quite reach dependent. Moves higher up not quite V Diff standard but much easier. Maybe VS 5c.
I think some climbers are missing the fact that the upper section climbs the slab right of Ash Tree Wall...this is not anything like VD.
i agree with steve c, very hard top-out - belly-flop works! no1 rock and an 'rp' protects the start though, only climbed it because of the unusual grade!
one reachy rockover with left hand to break (the lower pockets seeming useless) when left boot in pocket and right fingertips pushing on right most slot, then plain sailing to the flop out. Good solo.
Just a bit reachy at the bottom, nice slab move at the top!
I'm not tall but I am fairly agile so found getting my left foot in the pocket easy. This climb is all about technique. I'd give it 5a but there isn't that option in the list. No way is it 5c.
I failed for the second time on this the other week. However I did manage a nice eliminate up the arete left of the boulder problem start. Felt like a nice 4c/5a move. Cant find it in the rockfax or the bmc. Anyone know anything about this arete???? Wandered up the middle of the slab above and slightly right which was also severe ish and nice. Thought it might make a nice HS4c as a route.
The correct name of this route is Ash Tree Variation, not 'Variations'