Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 7
8m. The hard wall (4b direct) to a ledge, trend left to The Rib.
I looked at this, I really don't understand how it get's VDiff.
It looks harder....
I totally agree. I tried it as my first ever route at the roaches this weekend. I got nowhere. The Rib next to it, (if you go up the arete-y thing, as the gully is ok) was no good either. Diffs and vdiffs should either have very positive footholds and handholds and little gear, or slightly more challanging climbing with decent placements. This had ok footholds, but weak handholds, and zero gear.
Good gear(cams)for the crux move but no gear above.I think it must have lost a hold needs regrading care required.
The lines shown on the topos in both Rockfax and BMC guides are definitely harder than VDiff. But the obviously polished line just to the right is about right for the grade so I think the topos are wrong.