The Rib Right-hand

VS 4c? You're having a laugh. It doesn't even make Severe. Did anybody actually check this one before putting it in the guide?
Mat - 16/May/04

I would like to say, I did this as my first VS lead, but I can't, because it didn't fell harder than most Severes I have done. Overgraded, at least if the line on the photo is followed.
Steff - 31/May/04

I would have given this S 4a if the database voting system would have let me downgrade it that far. To be honest, it is barely rates that. May even be HVD.
Adrian Bates - 06/Sep/04

Got to agree with the comments above. The softest VS in the world?

A little exposed, when it comes to pro, but I'm afraid I'd rate it as an exposed VDiff - as long as you are happy with having your feet well above your last bit of pro.

I used two bits of gear, the first because I thought I was about to find this 4c move, and the second, 'cos I was 10 feet from the top and still hadn't found it, and would have decked out if I'd slipped.
Dominion - 12/Jun/05

No more than HVD.
mcjsspt - 20/Jul/05

I'm sure I climbed down this after doing "The Rib". Does that count as an ascent??
CJ - 22/Jul/05

agree with all the above...if i could have voted for vdiff on the database i would have done so. that flake is a bit creaky tho'! what a great beginners crag, far better than Birchen for a low stress intro. to grit.
al.smith - 31/Jul/05

you sure it isnt a desent route? there wasn't even a move!
tom - 14/May/06

Um.. I'd have to agree, a teensy weensy bit overgraded! But hey, it says "VS 4C" on the tin so that's what I'm ticking..!
jules - 16/Jun/06

If thats a VS 4c I am a middle aged black lesbian woman from new york, in reality I am white, from manchester, married...
Adam limer - 01/Jul/06

HVD 3c. VS grading has to be a joke!
Carl Smethurst - 06/Jul/06

May not have much bite but it does have the opportunity to thread a pocket! Good practice for greater things on Beeston Tor?
Paul Johnson - 12/Apr/07

If you take a line directly up the right arete and use no holds round to the right it is about severe 4a. It is a pleasant move over the overlap though.
Matt1000 - 22/Apr/07

Going direct over the overlap (i.e. staying on the left of the arete) may just warrant HS 4b, although I'd also be happy with S 4a - there's no way it's VS 4c. Going up the right side of the arete looked even easier.
dpmUK - 04/Aug/08