Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 32
Popular and excellent, though inevitably a little polished.
It may have been along time ago (1987) but I felt that pitch 1 was 5b and pitch 2 5a.
I agree with that
A chunk fell off the flake on pitch 1 a few (?5) years ago. When I climbed it last year I found it hard for HVS, but easier than Left-Hand Route (solid E1 to the right). Interesting that some people thought it 5b *before* the flake fell off!
A route of considerable substance. Not really polished but a lot of tricky bits including the start, middle, and finish. Only the last few yards of vertical grass reduce it's classic status.
Agree first pitch 5b with worrying section between crack and flake
Magnificant route, fabulous climbing all the way on both pitches. Great moves and sustained but with good protection. Hard won for the grade.
Top pitch is probably 5b for the tall :)
Super route. The grassy top out, with required steadiness only adds to the experience. Psychologically, P2 is harder than many E1s in North Wales.
Hardest HVS I've done in yonks, wasn't quite prepared for what to expect. Both pitches felt more like solid E1 5b,5b, sustained to boot with plenty of moments to savour. Stern stuff.
Classic Peak Limestone HVS 5b (both pitches)