Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 162
Fine sustained tufa climbing; technical and balancy despite its steepness. Climb the wall via a couple of bulges to an open groove and easier ground.
In the 1987 Stoney guide, this was reckoned to be the 4th hardest _E3_ at Staden.
Yeah, but it is only a hard E2 in reality - easier than Scoop Wall etc and plenty of others... Just E3 compared to Stadens ameanable E2's
Seemed solid E3 to me. Hard to get the crucial gear, no real rests, sustained, crux when you're pumped, all those things say E3. Downgrading the 'amenable E2s' eg Captain Reliable seems more appropriate.
I only seconded this one, but I agree with what the previous comment says - solid E3 and hard work getting the gear in and out.
not hard E2 just E2, never seen E3 in it's life
Good route but E2, not even top end E2. Do darius, scoop wall and then go back to it!
Good route that could do with a pumpy symbol, because it is. Intricate climbing and some great rock features.
Just thought I would add that this route is very safe with easy to place gear - as placments are quite worn. It is def sustained with no real rests - but very nice climbing too.
Darius? Scoop Wall? Widely reckoned to be E3 if comments on this database are anything to go by.
Great route - amazing rock and sustained technicality at the grade. Not that hard for E2.
E2 surely? Found gear pretty good & not a problem to place & it's possible to make rests for yourself. Certainly technical but not pumpy
Did this last year and i remember it being very good, gear seemed ok altho was a little run out above a nut 1 or 2 (cant remember) as i launched into the cool bulging rock bit before the groove, just keep pulling :). I'd say E2 5C seems fair.