Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 68
The pocketed centre of the slab is tenuous and unprotected. The right-hand start, using the big pocket, is easier but true technicians will ignore this and climb direct. f6B+ above pads.
Too many people climb this and Canoe with stacks of mats. Give it a bouldering grade (V5) for these people.
Shame to use mats, its been done without for so long, top section is much easier anyhow.
Brilliant route! Probably best to use mats though to try and stop the ground wearing away any more!
Shame to use mats? Ground wearing away? What about the climber's bones? Looked at it, laughed at it, walked away.
Even if you've got mats the top is still very spooky!
The move off the ground onto the ledge isnt 6b.
The 6b move is higher up.
I know; but the description implies that doing the RH start only gets E3 6a.
I'd use a mat having just seen my mates tib and fib poking out the bottom of his leg. I know it's not the purist of ascents, but I can live with that if it saves my bones!
A brilliant V4/5 with pads. I suppose you could argue that pads make it "too accessible" and cause wear and tear on the rock, but it's still pretty bold with them. Rather pokey for E3 with no pads I would think.