Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 18
12m. Climb the pleasant groove until level with the tree then move right awkwardly into a narrow rift to finish. A Direct Finish is harder (5a) especially if the tree is avoided.
I found that the diagram in the book sent me up Babylon's Groove (VS 4C) and not Tree Groove.
Same here, the diagram in the guide is wrong.
Definately Babylon Groove. Tree Groove is clearly indicated in the Chatsworth guide to the right of this and actually has a birch tree on route which is a bit of a give away really.
That damn tree. It's next to a potentially off balance move and is far too tempting not to use if you start to wobble. Avoid the tree it only makes it harder. Really nice balance problem for crux traverse.
Probably HS 4b with a couple of big cams for the traverse. Actually, probably HS 4b anyway - put a sling round the tree and the worst that happens is you go for a bit of a swing!