Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 68
A fine top pitch which gives VS climbing in an amazing position.</br>1) The old first pitch is loose and vegetated. Use one of the new sport pitches to gain the break. Creamsnatcher leaves you at a belay below the break. The first section of Four Thousand is slightly easier. </br>2) 4c, 20m. Trend up and left to the break. Follow this leftwards to gain the hanging groove. Ascend this on superb holds in an amazing position. The most exposed VS at Stoney.
Great position for the grade!
VS climbing in E3 position in top groove! One of the more exposed VS's in the Peak - excellent!
why not scrap the first pitch and start along the girdle.
Starting along the girdle would turn a pleasant route into a real horror (or 'classic' if you like that sort of thing!).
The first pitch looks way too overgrown at the minute. Did first pitch of the girdle today, then finished up Evasor. Excellent but not recommended for beginners though.
First pitch was a jungle so we started along the girdle which was fine but fairly smelly (literally). Top pitch is choss, albeit in a nice position.
Probably my favourite on stoney,first pitch is ok, not much gear (easy 4b). second pitch is an absolute must for the experienced VS leader, good holds, good gear but the postion makes it hard for VS.
The first picth is no longer a jungle thanks to smudge (UKC). The first pitch is still bold, but actually not completely rubbish. The route's really worth doing: the only VS at Stoney I wouldn't advocate blowing up...get on it and keep it clean!
easy but scary first pitch, fantastic top pitch
The route has been getting traffic and the first pitch has been cleaned up a bit more. It is now in good condition with much of the loose rock and vegetation gone. Although run out, the first pitch is now very straightforward. The top pitch is one of the best VS's on limestone in the Peak.
Good rock all the way, and some great exposure as you yard up huge holds on P2. I thought it was more like VS 4b,4b**
The length given for p1 here (and in the new Peak Limestone Rockfax for which I forked out £25) is WRONG. It's way over 15m - more like 25