Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 79
The tiny steep groove is sustained and powerful. The grade is the cause of much debate. Some think 8b.
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pete, you can't just keep on voting for 8b and expect it to get upgraded!
Standard 8a+, a good route as a bench mark
A great intro to steady 8a climbing...
The game is up Dunning, you have made yourself a laughing stock I'll have to give your routes the same "soft" treatment. And recruiting Mr Le Sage was a low act.
Come on Pete,stop kidding yourself. Top end 7c+ i thought. You'll make it one day mate.
A smashing route but only a touch harder than subculture which is an easy 8a. Come on Pete get real...
One of the best 7c+/8a sport climbs in the area. Now with new Belay as Pete wore the last one out.
This is proper 7c+ if you are short.
You can't grade everything for the short, Ru.
I thought the route was 8b, and im strong.
Bit Modest their Stu Watson Like always, Obviously not as strong as you thought.
it was a joke?!? still 8b though.
Ok I admit it! I cant do any other 8b's so maybe it is only 8a+....
8b if you are under 6ft (thats my excuse anyway)
stop yer moaning, hard 8a+ or easy 8b, what does it matter? if you've done it, you should be smiling anyway, and if you haven't, your opinion doesn't count. but give it 8a+, it's too good a route to be a 'soft touch'.
I think its 9c if your vastly overweight and weak.