Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 27
Adjacent Routes 18m. The lovely open wall and breaks. USER COMMENTS
More like 5, but very pleasant. Pity the lower off is in such a daft place
def. harder than 4+, and the lower-off is not where it is marked in the book. Very confusing and def. not top 50 for me!
some long reaches
Needs a reachy symbol. At least 5, maybe 5+. Not top 50 but pleasant.
Horseshit route!Which chimp put this as a top 50? Marked incorrect in new guide in relation to the belay position. Grade WAY out as well. Clearly this wasn't checked.
Not in my top 50, probably a 5 grade, there was a maillon on it where someone had retreated... Quite long reaches.
Just remembered the lower off - way out to the left and a good distance above the last hanger. Far more committing getting there than a 4+ should ever be.
This is a great route and committing (for bolts). There are easier 6a's in the El Chorro guide so this is a sandbag at the grade.
5 or 5+ with exciting moves left to belay - would put manners on a 4 leader ok
Fricken well hectic. 4 my flipping ass. Reachy. Retreated on mallion - anchor gone AWOL. Rubbish.
RockFax update gives this as 5/5+. I would go as far to suggest that there is a move of easy 6a around mid-height. Approaching it with this knowledge makes it a lovely route whereas for a 4+ leader it's "Elvis-legs" territory!
very confusing trying to find the line of bolts and match it to the Rockfax diagram. More like hard 5+, especially the last stretch to the lower off, which is badly placed.
The problem is that the lower-off must have been moved. If it was where it is shown in the book it would be a 5/5+, but getting left from the top bolt is really hard. The best option is to keep right and then traverse left at the top. Not 4+ in any case.
Yup, it's way harder than 4, I lowered off a move about halfway that was harder than any of the 5 + s we did, and it's not totally clear if I was even on the right route, this sector would benefit from a look for the next supplement.
Harder than 5+. The Line is not correct on Topo in Rockfax. |