Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 29
18m. The lovely open wall and breaks.
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More like 5, but very pleasant. Pity the lower off is in such a daft place
def. harder than 4+, and the lower-off is not where it is marked in the book. Very confusing and def. not top 50 for me!
some long reaches
Needs a reachy symbol. At least 5, maybe 5+. Not top 50 but pleasant.
Horseshit route!Which chimp put this as a top 50? Marked incorrect in new guide in relation to the belay position. Grade WAY out as well. Clearly this wasn't checked.
Not in my top 50, probably a 5 grade, there was a maillon on it where someone had retreated... Quite long reaches.
Just remembered the lower off - way out to the left and a good distance above the last hanger. Far more committing getting there than a 4+ should ever be.
This is a great route and committing (for bolts). There are easier 6a's in the El Chorro guide so this is a sandbag at the grade.
5 or 5+ with exciting moves left to belay - would put manners on a 4 leader ok
Fricken well hectic. 4 my flipping ass. Reachy. Retreated on mallion - anchor gone AWOL. Rubbish.
RockFax update gives this as 5/5+. I would go as far to suggest that there is a move of easy 6a around mid-height. Approaching it with this knowledge makes it a lovely route whereas for a 4+ leader it's "Elvis-legs" territory!
very confusing trying to find the line of bolts and match it to the Rockfax diagram. More like hard 5+, especially the last stretch to the lower off, which is badly placed.
The problem is that the lower-off must have been moved. If it was where it is shown in the book it would be a 5/5+, but getting left from the top bolt is really hard. The best option is to keep right and then traverse left at the top. Not 4+ in any case.
Yup, it's way harder than 4, I lowered off a move about halfway that was harder than any of the 5 + s we did, and it's not totally clear if I was even on the right route, this sector would benefit from a look for the next supplement.
Harder than 5+. The Line is not correct on Topo in Rockfax.