Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 29
The wide crack and wall. The initial bolt is high.
I don't like to slag off routes but this one is as bent as a bottle of crisps.
i completely agree - it's not that good and you would do better to warm up on sper the fern, the next route along
Didnt think it was that bad.
Route to the right is Pull Your Own 6b
No it's not - it's called Good Lay and was climbed on trad by Martin Crocker in 1989 at E3 6a.
Has this now been retro'ed? With Martin's permission?
Both Desireless and Good Lay have been retroed, neither of them with FA permission.
Took one look at this pile and decided to warm-up on Spare the Fern instead. Obviously if it wasn't bolted it would be a classic 3 star trad route with a queue of people waiting to do it..