Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 22
The deep gap in the ledge crossed by the awkward move is capped by a short hanging slab, start below this. Step up onto the short hanging slab and move up into a massive niche. Climb the chimney above via awkward moves past the chockstones to finish in a cliff-top crevasse.
The bottom of the climb was covered in birdshit when I led it(9/9/00) - be warned. Much harder than its grade.
Bloody hard for it's grade, but then again we did climb it in the dark with salt spray going all over the route. We had to leave a size 4 nut behind (26/11/02) halfway up the route but it should come out i fyou were to go there in the light!
much higher than its grade would suggest. mucky and wet, needs big commitment but the features for hands don't live up - extra exposure from the sea crashing into the grove below you. helps your confidence if you don't "down climb in"
One of the most mingin' routes I have had the displeasure of leading! It definately doesn't live up to the rest of the routes I've done at Subliminal all of which have been superb. Give it a miss and do First or Second Corner instead!
Would agree harder than the grade, awkward but enjoyable bridging. I only seconded it but the leader who has many years experiance also found it hard for the grade! would say it was "S" not "VD" at all
Only seconded this, but felt that the grade was spot on. Didn't find it hard at all (might be a different story if it was wet). Another good lead Ian.
An entertaining route, completely different in character from the open face climbs around it. Awkward in places but excellent gear placements. Very dry when I led it and I agree with the HVD grade - it would definitely be a challenge and go up a grade or two in damp conditions.