Freda Top 50

3 Stars
Technical
Pumpy
 VS 5a

Adjacent Routes
<< Poetry in Motion < Second Corner  |  Grandma's Groove > Grandpa's Grope >>


An all-time favourite of the area that pleases time after time. Start by the bad step in the ledge, and follow the thin crack past a rusty peg to an easing. The appealing, smooth-looking wall on the right is taken intricately to the top.

USER COMMENTS

nice moves up the higher face but a bit indifferent until then.
ian - 31/Jul/02

lovely all the way: don't hang about on the first crack, there's plenty of time to savour the route higher up
johnny - 03/Jan/03

Awesome route! Steep and fingery to begin with, but a clip onto a rusty peg about 12' up allows you to relax(!!) and enjoy the lovely upper section.
Gavin - 26/May/04

This route is about the only justification for visiting Subluminal. A real gem amongst the choss.
GrahamD - 09/Jul/04

made a bit of a mistake with this one. Pride rasied its head and I ended up doing it as my first lead for 8 years! great fun though.
Iain - 17/Dec/04

It's a bit tricky reading the line from the guide book - assumed it was the continuation of the obvious crack line. But that leads onto the neighbouring E2 climb.
So my interesting variation went as far as the big Jug on Grandpas Groove then take the crackline going left. Technically harder but better protected. - I guess I'm not the first to make that mistake.
Albie - 18/Apr/05

Also went too far right then back left but thats probably my poor guidebook reading skills.
Oli - 01/Jun/05

Totally overrated and escapable line - I do not understand how anyone could give this 3 stars...
Rob Greenwood - 22/Dec/05

did this again at the weekend and was very surprised how run-out it ended up being in the middle section - i was up for a ground fall from a long way and didn't see anything obvious to avoid it - i could be mistaken i guess since i was just enjoying the climbing!
ian bryant - 11/Nov/07

Nice climbing, over too quickly. Never strenuous at any point.
Dave Foster - 22/Aug/08

Don't hang around on the first couple of moves (wasting energy). Get to that peg and clip it (there is also a second peg to its right).
Fantastic climbing above with good holds (although not an abundance of gear).
Mark Reed - 21/Jun/11

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