Route Grade Votings
Total votes cast 95
Good moves lead into and up the shallow left-slanting groove in the centre of the wall.
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How is 5b technical climbing, above quite poor runners that are stenuous to place HVS? I've definately climbg E1's harder than this. Good route though!
Second the above comments, much harder than The Knutter or Hearsay Crack
Okay if you have the right sized Alien!?
An absorbing solo!
gear is fiddly but okay small wires and it's not really strenuous if you sort your feet out.
Definately only HVS
probably...I guess it's height is a limiting factor. Otherwise you'd expect HVS 5b to be well protected, or have a really low crux. This is neither.
2 bits of poorish gear with 5b climbing. HVS I think not.
E1 for. a good nut slot low down is not of much use then a technical move to flat hold from which to try and place runners(which are good) for the finish without getting horrendously pumped while a long way of the ground. Very nice moves above your gear lead to the top .
Don't you lot own any Peenuts or small cams?!?!
Gear straightforward to place, not strenuous, fair at HVS.
It's a really nice route. It's probably a little height dependent; for the short E1 might be fair.
Did this again today after a gap of 10 years, I always thought it very hard for the grade, found another way of doing the crux which makes it much easier. I'm only 5' 7", the gear is also good.
the gear is solid, and the moves are fair at the grade.
Nice route but gear looked blind and hard won.
gear is good but beyond the initial bomber wire hard to place and see that the placement is OK. tricky.