Route Grade Votings
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A fantastic route for the grade taking a strong line up the shield with varied climbing in a superb position. Best done as described, in one pitch, but careful rope work will be needed to avoid drag around the roof. Any in-situ gear should not be trusted, but natural protection is plentiful. Climb the groove, strenuous, but with rests, taking care gaining the sloping ledge (possible belay). Move diagonally left to clear the roof and finish more easily up the groove, which is a touch loose. There is a park-bench belay 15m back from the edge, but it is a stretch to reach it with 50m ropes.
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This was the route that made me change my mind about what should be done with old in-situ pegs and bolts. If the route were as described and all the in-situ gear was of a reasonable standard then it would be an excellent E2 but with the in-situ gear in its current (well summer 2000) state its a fearful experience!
Apologies if this is the wrong place for this.....
Don't understand the above comments. The route is very adequately protected by nuts and cams. The old bolt at the start is next to bomber nuts, the top peg is in reasonable nick and is close to good gear (July 2003).
No probs about the gear it is fine with a normal rack. Climbing is excellent.
I'll second these comments. Eminently protectable with a rack of wires and friends that can back up the admitedly old peg/ bolt where necessary. The perceived lack of popularity of peak limestone trad is nothing to do with insitu gear. Far wider forces are at work here eg. the bouldering resurgence.
Intended to climb M1 today, I didnt read these comments, so this is my 'impartial view'. M1 is a deathtrap waiting to happen. I set off towards the initial bulge, which is a completely hanging block that should be levered off. The route requires you to pull through this - if it came off it would land on the belayer, giving us a repeat of what happened on Darius recently which is seemingly much more solid. Its obvious on inspection that bits of it are coming off all the time, but pretty soon I reckon about 2 tons will be off. The bolt protecting this move is among the worst I've ever seen. In fact the whole of the Left Wing appears to be seeing very little traffic with brambled paths and grass tugging scrambles. It needs in-situ gear replacing and some rock removing, then I might return one day. M1 - here be dragons.
Repeated M1 on the 24th June 2008. Well Protected, easy to back the pegs up. (the bolt is not needed with a great crack for wires) Didnt notice any loose blocks on the starting section. Great route which needs 3 stars. The path was a bit overgrown but the route was clean. Get on it!!
the belay on top did however involve a bench 15 meters back... all part on the fun!!
absolutely brilliant route, better climbed as a single pitch as the in-situ belay gear is rubbish which makes a safe belay complicated, but be sparing with mid size cams as the routev will eat a lot of them.
Gear is fine. Insitu gear is rubbish but not needed at all as it is easy to back up. (Although I did clip it anyway).
did this a couope of weeks before Andy and agree with his comments. This route is well-protected withotu any fixed gear and is not particualrly loose (there is one loose flake but you dont need it as a hold and there is other gear to back it up).