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3 Stars
 HVD 4a

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<< Ruby Tuesday < Black and Tans  |  Diamond Wednesday > Hollybush Crack >>

24m. Another fine climb, less popular than its near neighbour but not really much less worthy. Follow Black and Tans to its first groove. Climb this to its top, move left then back right to outflank the overhangs then finish up the well-positioned crack above. A big pitch at the grade.


The cracke felt just about sustained enough for severe; harder and arguably better (more direct) than Black and Tans.
Jamie B - 03/May/03

Deffinatly the hardest HVD i've done! i've climbed VS in eastern peak which felt easier. A couple of high stepping, exposed mantles made it feel severe to me.
ceri stewart - 24/Nov/03

A good route, with fine moves in a good position, and for grit a long route, with good protection, which can be a little bit problematic to place here and there. Probably worth Severe just for the corner crack bellow the black and tans belay ledge. Also intial moves going in to the crack from here feel severe also.
Woker - 17/May/04

Severe since has all the hardest bits of B&T and is harder for longer. Definitely not VS tho!
Harder with frozen fingers
SidH - 20/Dec/04

Doesn't feel any easier than Black & Tans, maybe a bit better protected & slightly less airy, but technically the same
Iain Thow - 19/Mar/07

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