Great Slab Top 50

3 Stars
 E3 5b

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Total class - not too hard but still unprotected and a touch precarious. Trend right up a delicate ramp to a ledge, 'piano-play' right on slippery footholds to a breather on a small ledge, then climb the steeper wall on flatties. Harder for the short.
FA. Joe Brown 1951


What a fabulous climb.
Michael Birkby - 10/Sep/03

One of the most rewarding climbs ever. Crux feels like 4b after doing it, but 6a to contemplate. The onsight makes it just worth E3, but also earns all 3 stars. If there were a bomber runner at the crux, it would get HVS 5a, and hardly a single star. (top-ropers note: it is not just the grade that depends on the style, but the star-rating also, as the quality is not in the moves as such, but in the experience).
Just Another Dave - 21/Jul/04

Well said Dave. I still love this route now just for the flutter you still get. Awesome experience
Matt - 18/May/05

See dozens of 'top ropers' on the Great Slab routes these days. Not a good thing in my opinion.
BIRKBY - 29/Sep/05

Top ropers sod off! If you don't think you're up to leading it, leave it alone. If you did top-rope it, it wouldn't be an E3 lead anyway, so there's no point. If and when this climb gets polished, it will become unjustifiable except as a no-star 'do it for the grade' scarer.
david philip jones - 21/Oct/05

Top roping wasters stop ruining this and other good routes on the slabs hereabouts with your antics. It is unfair and reducing the challenge of the climb to your level whilst damaging it for others. Top ropings ok, just not on delicate mid-grade routes like this.
Matt G - 27/Oct/05

Incredible. Absolute incredible.

The feeling upon reaching the far ledge is one of the highlights of your life... I think the whole valley heard my whoop of joy!

Agree totally with Dave on the crux traverse - 5c to contemplate, 5a to do. Make sure to take a minute or two on that far ledge to loose some of the massive amount of adrenaline that's just been dumped into your system!
Pythonist - 13/Aug/06

didn't Joe Brown top rope this many times before doing it on lead??
Michael - 19/Feb/07

brilliant. i'd give it top end E3. i thought the moves were surprisingly tricky to work out, but over quite quickly once started. no top roping pls, polosh would ruin this climb.
luke - 28/Nov/08

Top roping delicate unprotected climbs:
If you're considering a 1st ascent - probably OK
If you're considering an ascent - possibly OK
If you're not even thinking about climbing it - just plain selfish and showing a disregard for other's wellbeing)
Edwardthatcher - 01/Oct/09

I led this and the other slabs hereabouts on sight in the late 1980s but am now much older and fatter and have no desire to hurt myself - dropping a rope down them and using a shunt on a quiet winter's afternoon does no more harm to the rock than leading and seconding - so why all the holier than thou stuff...just be honest with yourself and others and enjoy the moves in the best style you can manage at the time
john yates - 12/Dec/09

Joe Brown on sighted this so so should everyone else or leave it be.
A Hughes - 12/May/11

I have some sympathy with John Yates. If the anti top rope lobby carries on secondng will be frowned on! In fact there's no difference between seconding an unprotected climb and top roping!
Andy - 11/Jul/11

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