I don't see that condemning the minority who don't follow access agreements is problematic. The majority of climbers do want to follow them and will be annoyed and depressed at what's happened
Personally, no, I think they are acting in the interests of the children in their care, and agreed a reasonable compromise to allow climbing to continue.
But even if you accept that this was their diabolical plan all along, then massive congratulations to the people that completed the essential step of flouting the access agreement to get all access removed. Bravo.
That's a shame. See also Hoghton Quarry Lancashire, access removed because climbers ignored the agreement in spectacular fashion. Sometimes we are own worst enemy.
Whilst this is terrible news particularly for local climbers we would urge that everyone refrain from speculation and conjecture on here.
The landowner does closely follow climbing media related to the crag. Any resolution is difficult from where we are now and even unintentionally inflammatory comments could make things worse.
Cheers John. My post was aimed at anyone viewing the topic, not to the content of the OP. It's a quirk of the forum that 'reply to topic' appears as 'reply to johncook'. Sorry for any misunderstanding.
What a real shame. I was lucky enough to bag a great day's climbing there a couple of months back and was reminded of the number of quality lower grade routes there.
To be honest, the alternative abseil access route really wasn't that onerous either.
I wonder if some of the people crossing the fence were not climbers? To be honest, the abseil is probably easier than accessing from below. I was climbing there last Nov and noticed several people wandering below having crossed the fence who were definitely not climbers
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