> I've read it and having 'debated' with with Summo and SeanKenny on UKC I'm assuredly acquainted with suffering. On the topic of economics, I refute any notion of a 'benefit'.
Ahhh, the season of peace and goodwill to all men.
I love a good suffer if I think it's doing me some good. Cycling up steep hills knowing it's improving my fitness. Massive arm ache after a good climbing session (seems a long time ago!). Using some psyche to push on to an achievement I've been aiming for. Suffering if I think it's doing me harm is a completely different thing.
All you list is good and beneficial, but it’s not really suffering, just training hard. However, deliberately suffering for mountaineering; how would you do that? I’ve never believed in training for adversity, just facing it when it occurs. A philosophy that has never let me down.