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Morning All,

I'm sure this has been asked time and time again...

We have completed the Y3P during the summer and are now planning the W3P (not3000) in October.

Not the fittest in the world but capable of walking 20 -30 miles non stop happily on the flat. Obviously doing some leg work but no hills round here.

So how big is the difference between the two we will not be driving between nor will we be walking .

All help and advice greatly received. TIA

Do you mean Yorkshire 3 Peaks and Wharfedale 3 Peaks?

The answer tot the question porbably depends on the mode of transport that you "will not be driving"

Are we talking about a push bike, an e-bike, a motor bike, a paramotor......?

Yorkshire then Welsh. Thanks for reading x

What are the Welsh 3s (if not the 14x 3000ft ones?)

Do you have Wings ?

Snowdon, Cader Idris, Pen Y Fan in 24Hrs?

A man who can I meant I will not be doing the driving. 

I wish I had wings!!!!

From a quick search on google... its 17 miles (so less distance than the yorkshire 3) but there's more accent......

The main difference I can see is that they are a fair distance apart..... are you driving between said 3 welsh peaks and then just walking up them??? If so, it seems abit dull and not much of a challenge IMO... same as my view on the national 3.

I haven't done the walking-driving challenges but doing this in October means your night-time nav will need to be good (and presumably you won't see any views of/ from the last peak) 

https://www.theordinaryadventurer.com/advice/welsh-3-peaks/

That's all we need, another mountain 'challenge' where you're expected to drive between the hills

It is a big day out, but this is pretty doable in a day with cycling between the mountains too.

If you make sure that you do Snowdon and/or Pen Y Fan in the dark the navigation is pretty simple.

The welsh 3 peaks is pretty unpopular with people who live nearby and has resulted in some MRT callouts. If you must attempt a hillwalking challenge please consider something that doesn't involve driving between the peaks. If you want a long day the welsh 3000s is good objective, as is the aran - waun-oer - cadair ridgeline from Llanuwchllyn to Fairbourne.